Dr. James K. A. Smith gave this interview after delivering a lecture entitled, “Looking for Joy in All the Wrong Places: An Augustinian Guide to our Anxieties” alongside Dr. Kyle David Bennett. This lecture considers how the duplex of anxiety and anger—fostered and fomented by the rituals of distraction—are both generators and fruit of idolatries. But we will also consider what it might look like to overcome these inhibitors, to find rest and arrive home to joy.